[UK] Reginald A. E. Pritchard's Ethics Chairman Application

I dont know what scav bane is talking about about remmy has always been very clear on what he expects from people, which is RP and Lore he has always been a big advocate for those things on the site and I greatly respect that cause guess what guys were in a RP server

Remmy is also chill af and I wouldve loved to work with him in the UK if i stayed lol, its also not like he brushes off people that critique him hes open to critqiues on his behavior and listens then rebutes them if he feels its unjustified i dont see whats wrong with it

+Support, good luck dude i wanna be part of yr events one day
 
-Support.

In the interest of transparency given that we have already had a 1-to-1 discussion in TeamSpeak, I will publicly leave my -support to your return. I am aware of the skills and history you possess, but a combination of tenuous reports of the activities you've used the last month with on the server, as well as the distinctive, major issue that we've discussed from an OOC perspective means that I am extremely uncomfortable with you returning to CL5.

I also think your approach to the server right now is not what Omega-1 and the Committee needs, as the attention that will be attracted to it will only be as strongly magnetized as your time in the role before you may leave it again, which precedent does dictate has been the case.

I appreciate that despite our differences, the conversation we had in TeamSpeak was nothing but cordial and understanding. That much I will thank you for.
So first of all, I was quite expressly told that you would not be commenting on the application. By you. Which I see is out of the window less than 12 hours later.

“Before you may leave it again, as PRECEDENT dictates” - Have you read the application? There is no precedent for me leaving roles early, aside from an exceptional circumstance involving blatant player targeting in ISD.

I think you ought to be more ‘transparent’ about the fact that you are, blatantly, hostage holding my progression on the server. How far can I progress before you decide it’s time to resign? It’s a shameful way to handle conflicting viewpoints on a subject, and whilst I am empathic to the subject in question’s importance to you, it is NOT an ‘OOC factor’, its downright unrelated to the server in any way.

I do not need to improve my image, nor do I need to change my viewpoints on any subject to ‘fit in’ or assuage concerns of how easy I’d be to work with. I have made clear, in the application I spent several hours of my time writing and creating, that I know how to fix the Committee and its issues, alongside my own observations of its associated departments showing my understanding of their issues, too.

But with all of that in mind, the only holdbacks seem to be conflation of my views and the idea that, whilst not holding a leadership position, that I have to sit around and constantly maintain my public image. This is not a mayoral election, this is a gmod server.

I’m not withdrawing this application, I will be raising the matter with NL.

Thanks.
 
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I’m gonna be honest, remmy is the best choice for EC we have currently. Whilst I do believe some of his apparent recent actions don’t sound too great (no idea if they are true or not, so I’m taking this with a grain of salt) , remmy is still our best option for helping out O-1 and EC get into a better position overall.

Is ECC a bit of a long step? Yeah. Honestly, I’d talk to pyrite and see if you can get a temporary position as an ECA so you can get more insight into the issues of current CL4, O1, EC, etc etc, whilst also getting to do some character building (if you use this character).

Anyways, best of luck
+Support
 
Remmy is a good roleplayer one of the best this GMOD server has seen. People might have issues with bro OOCly, or think its hard to work with im ICly. But hey, its a roleplay server afterall. If he wants to roleplay as someone who is hard to work with, someone who is a dickhead to everyone then he can do so, nothing wrong with it.

All of the issues that have been raised against Remmy, seem like they could easily be fixed if people just stopped speaking OOCly with eachother all the time. 🤷‍♂️

Also, if he gets the position and resigns in a month. Atleast he was here for a month and used his vast experience to help where others could not. I dont see the issue there either tbf.
 
So I've probably spent like 20-30 minutes reading the application, the replies and doing a lot of thinking on what to say on this application.

From what I have seen it seems there is a good amount of people who don't think your at the time to return back to chairman however after doing a small amount of digging (small it's a gmod app I'm not spending hours delving deep into this) I feel that a fair amount of the abrasion to you returning as chairman is unfounded.

From what it seems there are people who believe you to be overtly rude and lacking of RP recently, now after a quick check in discord I've gone through roughly a couple weeks of messages sent by you in discord to find pretty much nothing wrong (maybe I'm blind and missed it) but from what I've seen 90% of what has been posted has been just discussions on the server, RP, etc... Of course I can't see all channels in discord and certainly not DMs so it may exist elsewhere but the only evidence is just what other people have stated and I'm not going to hang someone based purely on words alone, if someone were to send a screenshot of something in a channel or dm that is awful then I'd change my opinion but until that actually happens then I'm not going to take it as fact especially when cade who is actively against you becoming chairman said that you were cordial and polite in your talk on teamspeak. On teamspeak itself from my interactions with you I can however see where someone people might find you to be rude as you never really surgacoat anything and just say your opinions on things however I think it's a bit of stretch to really say your not fit for chairman because of that, heck I'd say it's probably one of the reasons you have been a good chairman in the past because you have said your opinions on topics that come up without pulling any punches.

For the claims on the lack of RP I can see why some people would think this as you do goof about a fair amount when your not on a CL5 job but I have seen you a few times this last week performing RP and not just messing about, additionally this is how you have always been so I don't really get why people are saying it's a recent thing from the last month and using it to differentiate from why you shouldn't be chairman now compared to back then feels like it's a mute point as this was always the case.

Ultimately this isn't a popularity contest, it's a process to see if the powers to be think you would be a good chairman and ultimately you probably would so I'll be +Supporting the application.
 
I believe you’re fully capable of doing the job. At that time, the server was caught in a stage between infancy and development, where many things were allowed to happen because of the mindset people held. It wasn’t so much about structure as it was about learning through trial and error.

From my perspective, your goal isn’t really to become Ethics Committee Chairman. What you’re aiming to do is show others that you can step into the role and handle it, no matter the circumstances. That drive comes with a measure of ego, and while ego can certainly be a flaw, it can also serve as a strength when it’s channeled in the right way.

With that said, I’m giving this application a minus support for the Chairman position. However, I would consider you a neutral candidate for a standard Ethics Committee member role.
 
So first of all, I was quite expressly told that you would not be commenting on the application. By you. Which I see is out of the window less than 12 hours later.

“Before you may leave it again, as PRECEDENT dictates” - Have you read the application? There is no precedent for me leaving roles early, aside from an exceptional circumstance involving blatant player targeting in ISD.

I think you ought to be more ‘transparent’ about the fact that you are, blatantly, hostage holding my progression on the server. How far can I progress before you decide it’s time to resign? It’s a shameful way to handle conflicting viewpoints on a subject, and whilst I am empathic to the subject in question’s importance to you, it is NOT an ‘OOC factor’, its downright unrelated to the server in any way.

I do not need to improve my image, nor do I need to change my viewpoints on any subject to ‘fit in’ or assuage concerns of how easy I’d be to work with. I have made clear, in the application I spent several hours of my time writing and creating, that I know how to fix the Committee and its issues, alongside my own observations of its associated departments showing my understanding of their issues, too.

But with all of that in mind, the only holdbacks seem to be conflation of my views and the idea that, whilst not holding a leadership position, that I have to sit around and constantly maintain my public image. This is not a mayoral election, this is a gmod server.

I’m not withdrawing this application, I will be raising the matter with NL.

Thanks.
While I respect you greatly as a roleplayer and I recognize your proficiency as a player and CL5 holder, your reply to Cade shows that you have problems controlling your temper. Alongside an (alleged, from other players) cloud of toxicity coming from you, you losing your marbles at Cade's very respectful message and replying with passive aggressive words + an escalation to NL isn't a good look.


I think you're a great fit for Chairman. But the OOC issues that have come up cant be ignored.

Alex
 
While I respect you greatly as a roleplayer and I recognize your proficiency as a player and CL5 holder, your reply to Cade shows that you have problems controlling your temper. Alongside an (alleged, from other players) cloud of toxicity coming from you, you losing your marbles at Cade's very respectful message and replying with passive aggressive words + an escalation to NL isn't a good look.


I think you're a great fit for Chairman. But the OOC issues that have come up cant be ignored.

Alex
Hello,

I’m not going to feed into the paradox you’re creating, here. But your takeaway from reading my reply is almost laughably ignorant. I am naturally frustrated by having the prospect of -1’s resignation hung over my head, as though I ought to feel responsible for applying in the first place. I have been open about why that is frustrating, and I have outlined the problem with such retaliation to someone applying for a role.

A player in the height of RP leadership has professed that they believe someone suitable for a position, but a personal, non-server related ‘issue’ is threatening their resignation. Placing SSL in a position where they must choose which branch of SC to deprive. If your only takeaway from that is that I must have some kind of temper issue, I have no further comments to make to you.

On top of this, no one has alleged a ‘cloud of toxicity’ stemming from anyone. Those were your words.

I’m going to try and avoid replying to these verdicts where I can, but I find your take on this deeply reductive. You cannot expect someone to silently absorb your comments.
 
So first of all, I was quite expressly told that you would not be commenting on the application. By you. Which I see is out of the window less than 12 hours later.

“Before you may leave it again, as PRECEDENT dictates” - Have you read the application? There is no precedent for me leaving roles early, aside from an exceptional circumstance involving blatant player targeting in ISD.

I think you ought to be more ‘transparent’ about the fact that you are, blatantly, hostage holding my progression on the server. How far can I progress before you decide it’s time to resign? It’s a shameful way to handle conflicting viewpoints on a subject, and whilst I am empathic to the subject in question’s importance to you, it is NOT an ‘OOC factor’, its downright unrelated to the server in any way.

I do not need to improve my image, nor do I need to change my viewpoints on any subject to ‘fit in’ or assuage concerns of how easy I’d be to work with. I have made clear, in the application I spent several hours of my time writing and creating, that I know how to fix the Committee and its issues, alongside my own observations of its associated departments showing my understanding of their issues, too.

But with all of that in mind, the only holdbacks seem to be conflation of my views and the idea that, whilst not holding a leadership position, that I have to sit around and constantly maintain my public image. This is not a mayoral election, this is a gmod server.

I’m not withdrawing this application, I will be raising the matter with NL.

Thanks.
Didn't you try hostage holding SSL and NL by being the main impetus behind the mass FCOM resignation based on the server health at the time? Pot calling the kettle black, even if in different contexts. I am genuinely disappointed how vitriolic this message has come off as over one detail, especially considering I absolutely made sure that what I said was as polite as possible and not able to be used by others to form an opinion without full context.

In regards to why I left a public -support; The mere fact that we had such a respectful conversation in private meant that I felt we were on a level playing field with what could and could not be said, and since you were told to your face by me why I oppose you returning, it would not be able to do any more harm to be publicly transparent, and I really had no malicious intent in doing so, and felt it was less cowardly to only say it to you there and not on the forums. Perhaps I should have mentioned it to you first so I can see why that has annoyed you, I suppose.

In regards to being more transparent - okay, sure. Everyone should be aware that I have zero intent of staying as O5-1 if you get back into Ethics, because I have zero desire to have my mirror in Sr. CL5 be someone who fundamentally disagrees with my existence as a person from an OOC perspective. I've had no shame in telling SSL/NL this, it's a very simple matter to me. I also have had zero intent of using this to be some kind of rallying point behind others going for you like some kind of shit-flinging contest, I made it clear that I would simply quietly leave - why do you think I was very vague in my -support in the first place? So people didn't use my viewpoint as a springboard to jump you, because I do not like it when applications devolve into this.

However, being fully honest, knowing you and the history of *some* applicants that you have absolutely tried to deny or -support for your "public image" viewpoint of them tells me that you are more offended that the smoking gun has been turned on you for once, than you actually are at why I'm opposing you. Especially considering I know from talking to you that you absolutely have it out for them still.

Unfortunately, you, GC and your collective opinions about me hold zero relevance to me and how I want to run the server and what I am willing to tolerate as part of my player experience. You critique me for trying to leverage you for holding such disdain based on your views, and I remind you that this is a "private" community, what is viewed as acceptable and what is not is up to those above, which is why I've raised the issue in the first place - to let them decide.

You also think that I've critiqued you solely for this when I already explained that your viewpoint of how to fix O-1 and Ethics isn't what it needs. You are a band-aid, and people will be drawn to you just because you're Remmy and they will leave as soon as you do when the inevitable dislike of the server status prompts you to leave again, just like last time. The issue with Ethics is how alive it is - you are a short-term fix and I have been telling SSL that if they want Ethics to gradually improve, a healthy cycle of active existing players gaining attraction to the role is a better choice.

Rest assured, you also weren't the first to raise this to NL. It's not like anyone with more than 5 brain cells doesn't know which member of NL you went to first, anyway.
 
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-Support you held DoISD for 10 seconds mate lock in

All jokes aside +Support You have a history of resigning after receiving a position, so I can see why people would not want you as ECC. However, based on how Ethics is going on right now it is probably the best decision and not to mention you've held so many positions before and you are clearly skilled at what you do. During your time as ECC I hope that all RP/Storylines/Whatever you decide to do brings in quality players and encourages players to apply for positions that currently need people the most 🙏

I’m not going to comment on the drama side of things, I just wanted to share my thoughts on the application itself i would rather not get involved with that gang
 
I haven't played on the server for quite some time, but while I was playing and you were in the position of ECM, ECC and -1, I can tell that you like the work that you do and actively put in the effort to actually provide the server with proper means of roleplay, rather than some half-assed trash that's mainly part of the gameplay routine

The main stem from the -supports that I've read so far, are people seemingly just showing their personal disdain towards you, rather than their subjective and useful thoughts about why you shouldn't be in the position of ECC. It's more why you're a cunt and less why you're simply not fit to be in the position of Chairman.

Personally I think you fit as I've seen countless times while I was O-1 still, and I still believe you fit in the role of Chairman. Don't let someone jealous, or somebody that simply doesn't like you deter you from wanting to do what you feel is right on the server.

It's a game, not a candidacy for the Senate or some shit.