What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
2 Things possibly.
- An alert system for anyone using a Bind to change between 1st and 3rd person, there should be no reason for someone to need to switch between third person and First person that fast, just use the C menu and click 1 button if you're Larping.
- Alternative to that above, just ban binding Third person, its obvious people who use it only have it to abuse Third person peaking.
- A secondary System placed to force First person while in combat. If someone is shot at or starts firing their weapon it should immediately force them into first person and have a 60 second timer you must wait outside of combat in order to Re-use Third person. Such like how holstering weapons requires you to be out of combat for 60 seconds, this has the same effect.
Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
It has not been suggested before.
Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- Third person peaking in combat becomes impossible.
- Fights become a lot more equal and no-one abusing their cover can use a Bind to just peak around for even a second to make a nasty shot then look right at the wall.
- Its not as invasive as just removing it entirely, its more just putting a cap on to make sure it cannot be abused, a cap which cannot be circumvented.
- Staff will no longer need to intervein and watch through clips of people staring at walls or the ground to decide if they're third person peaking or not.
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- PVP mains will suddenly become a bit worse at PVP no longer being able to abuse their special weapon.
- No other downsides.
Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
- PVP with people such as CI and A1/O1 shows that pretty much everyone abuses Third person in order to score another kill, often using it to locate people and sneak in a shot where they shouldn't have seen them without making the extension.
- Third person peaking is already banned but its been shown time and time again people still abuse its capabilities.
- Players in chat often tell each other how to Bind third person to their mouse or an easily accessible key.
- The suggestion makes it a clear and definitive way to eliminate Third person peaking from PVP entirely, possibly tweaking around with the timing from 60 seconds to lower but the overall message should be clear to make it impossible to even use Third person while in direct combat.
- Staff are also often busy or unable to respond fast enough to spectate every fight, often at times also missing people using third person, leading to no punishments being dealt to those so confident to abuse it.
- Adding this suggestion could also eliminate Staffs need to interveen in such matters further, without restricting Larpers in their Third person capabilities.
Extra Notes
- This suggestion is likely going to get -Supported into the ground by PVP'ers on the server
- But I want every single person who -Supports this to know this has no actual downsides.
- Anyone who actually wants against this suggestion obviously abuses this system anyways so why show yourself and be obvious about it
2 Things possibly.
- An alert system for anyone using a Bind to change between 1st and 3rd person, there should be no reason for someone to need to switch between third person and First person that fast, just use the C menu and click 1 button if you're Larping.
- Alternative to that above, just ban binding Third person, its obvious people who use it only have it to abuse Third person peaking.
- A secondary System placed to force First person while in combat. If someone is shot at or starts firing their weapon it should immediately force them into first person and have a 60 second timer you must wait outside of combat in order to Re-use Third person. Such like how holstering weapons requires you to be out of combat for 60 seconds, this has the same effect.
Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
It has not been suggested before.
Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- Third person peaking in combat becomes impossible.
- Fights become a lot more equal and no-one abusing their cover can use a Bind to just peak around for even a second to make a nasty shot then look right at the wall.
- Its not as invasive as just removing it entirely, its more just putting a cap on to make sure it cannot be abused, a cap which cannot be circumvented.
- Staff will no longer need to intervein and watch through clips of people staring at walls or the ground to decide if they're third person peaking or not.
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- PVP mains will suddenly become a bit worse at PVP no longer being able to abuse their special weapon.
- No other downsides.
Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
- PVP with people such as CI and A1/O1 shows that pretty much everyone abuses Third person in order to score another kill, often using it to locate people and sneak in a shot where they shouldn't have seen them without making the extension.
- Third person peaking is already banned but its been shown time and time again people still abuse its capabilities.
- Players in chat often tell each other how to Bind third person to their mouse or an easily accessible key.
- The suggestion makes it a clear and definitive way to eliminate Third person peaking from PVP entirely, possibly tweaking around with the timing from 60 seconds to lower but the overall message should be clear to make it impossible to even use Third person while in direct combat.
- Staff are also often busy or unable to respond fast enough to spectate every fight, often at times also missing people using third person, leading to no punishments being dealt to those so confident to abuse it.
- Adding this suggestion could also eliminate Staffs need to interveen in such matters further, without restricting Larpers in their Third person capabilities.
Extra Notes
- This suggestion is likely going to get -Supported into the ground by PVP'ers on the server
- But I want every single person who -Supports this to know this has no actual downsides.
- Anyone who actually wants against this suggestion obviously abuses this system anyways so why show yourself and be obvious about it
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) since you're not supposed to purposely get people to see your face.
), 096 clips through, and IIRC, this still is the case that you can see 096's face through a normal door if it's clipping through? So being in third person allows 096 players to be able to break the door at a distance that they can't clip through, but that is significantly harder to the point of near-impossibility in first person. Forcing 096 to be first-person for breaches has massive negative server health implications for this reason.
But you're literally just a fire dude.
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