Denied Remove ECC/O5-1 Applications

[Doug]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Look, hear me out on this one, one of the major things that I find pointless is ECC/O5-1 applications. They dont really serve much purpose, especially considering only one person normally wishes to go for the position at a time anyways, why not just have it so that person can express interest in the position to SSL/SL and they can decide in private. It would bring a lot more "mystery" to the role and would be nice to see people learning more about the role IC over seeing the obvious O5-1 application or ECC application up for 1-2+ weeks.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I couldn't find any

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
More immersion
Less waste of time
More merit based system over application quality based
More prep time for GM's wanting to create a promotion event

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
I honestly cant think of any

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
I believe this suggestion could bring a lot more secrecy to the selection of ECC/O5-1 as it should be and would provide GM's with a lot more preparation time to create promotion events. I talked with a few CL5 about this (UK) and they all agreed its not a bad idea. This would act similarly to how the recent UK O5-1 got selected and promoted, with no actual application posted in the end.

 

[Big Iron]

Personally, I would remove most if not all applications from the forums and get them done in game by expressing interest and talking with seniors of each department (except for SCP applications and GOC of course). I think this would help create some RP aswell, only downside I can see with this is possibly more bias on who you recruit, but this can already happen anyways and can be investigated.

I also do think that having to write massive applications just to get accepted into a position might result in players lose interest in applying, even if they would be a good addition to the position.

This is my own personal opinion, though.

I fw this opinion heavy I hated writing long ass apps just for them to get denied for some completely out of left field reason then being left defeated

 

[Basilisk]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Look, hear me out on this one, one of the major things that I find pointless is ECC/O5-1 applications. They dont really serve much purpose, especially considering only one person normally wishes to go for the position at a time anyways, why not just have it so that person can express interest in the position to SSL/SL and they can decide in private. It would bring a lot more "mystery" to the role and would be nice to see people learning more about the role IC over seeing the obvious O5-1 application or ECC application up for 1-2+ weeks.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I couldn't find any

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
More immersion
Less waste of time
More merit based system over application quality based
More prep time for GM's wanting to create a promotion event

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
I honestly cant think of any

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
I believe this suggestion could bring a lot more secrecy to the selection of ECC/O5-1 as it should be and would provide GM's with a lot more preparation time to create promotion events. I talked with a few CL5 about this (UK) and they all agreed its not a bad idea. This would act similarly to how the recent UK O5-1 got selected and promoted, with no actual application posted in the end.

-SUPPORT I like the current system where you gotta make applications and apps are a better system for the whole community to give feedback but good idea though!

 

[GMAN0289]

destroy all applications

 

[Average member podidski]

destroy all applications

 

[Randalls]

+Support

SSL used to just meet as a group and make this decision amongst themselves. I don't really know why we actually made the change, usually there is only one or two candidates for the role anyways and SSL still decide who gets it ultimately. It just seems like a waste of time and effort when the same people are making the decision in a private setting anyways. If the community feels as if they need to give feedback, if there is a problem with a candidate for the position, I'm certain it'd be better for DMs instead of airing it out in a public setting.

 

[Yeke]

Suggestion Denied

Hi @Doug 'TrippleD'

thank you for taking the time to make a suggestion, for some reason my post in here got yeeted in the roll back, however here is my official response.

After review I am denying this for the reasons that SSL hold the right to appoint and ignore this application, however the applications do serve as a general way to filter out people who dont want the role and also allow people in cases where O5/ EC do not have anyone who wants to move up but a person wants to return and take up that spot by applying as it creates checks and balances whilst also holding them accountable to the community.

So in short SSL can ignore this requirement where needed, as they have full control over the appointments, however I cannot remove applications wholly.

Kind Regards
Yeke