Rule Suggestion Disallow DC/AR/FO from using SCP-914 Disguises

[Sceptre]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Add a rule that disallows the use of SCP-914 Disguises by Deepcovers, Assessment Team and Field Operatives.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I do not believe so.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
+ Searching for hostile personnel will be fairer and more balanced for players
+ Disguised hostiles will no longer be able to immediately hot-swap between 2 disguises of their choosing

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- It's a niche and specific rule which generally speaking are detrimental and annoying to have

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Deepcovers have had a recent tendency to be using SCP-914 to obtain a disguise of their choosing, whilst pairing this with their disguise cards to create an immediately hot-swappable disguise. This allows them to do an overtly hostile action and get called out for it and then immediately swap disguises to maintain their cover. This, furthermore, allows Deepcovers in essence to bypass the disguise card cooldown as they can swap to their other disguise temporarily and then obtain a new disguise on their card. Generally speaking, this should be re-added as a clarification as the old rules did state (which appears to have been removed?) that special classes such as Juggernaut could not use 914 (iirc?)

CI will immediately move to -support bomb this suggestion with no genuine feedback or reasoning. I'm happy to entertain any genuine discussion about this, however.

 

[FestiveJimb]

-Support

Sounds like someone died to a one too many DC's, and now wants to kill off a big chunk of their loop. <3

 

[YandereMuffin]

Perhaps 914 1:1 disguises should have some other negative to them, but I think just disallowing it entirely isn't the right choice.

I also think it would be odd to only block the disguise roles, I understand the reasoning behind it but there are plenty of 914 uses are are more annoying / harsh than a disguise card owner using it - mass disguising comes to mind instantly as much more annoying.

 

[Joris Kilotoviz/London]

The fact that you said Field Opp in this suggestion shows ya didn't research

Hint. Field Operatives are banned from DC/ARs entirely. If they enter it counts as a MR

 

[Mitski]

-Support

What kind of suggestion is this

 

[BlobbiMan]

to add on to what i said earlier, you said CI would review bomb this but 2 of the jobs you mentioned are GOC (And one cant even raid outside of MRs)

 

[Walter532]

Perhaps 914 1:1 disguises should have some other negative to them, but I think just disallowing it entirely isn't the right choice.

I also think it would be odd to only block the disguise roles, I understand the reasoning behind it but there are plenty of 914 uses are are more annoying / harsh than a disguise card owner using it - mass disguising comes to mind instantly as much more annoying.

There is a negative you can literally be found if someone has a kant counter

 

[YandereMuffin]

There is a negative you can literally be found if someone has a kant counter

Yes, if 914 is heard / figured out or if people are just randomly kant checking I guess.

Frankly the ability to instantly swap disguises is quite amazing and unless the DC is planning to go for multiple hours a quick disguise is much more useful and worse the possibility of being kant checked.

I just think the negative should be more, esspecially with 2 DCs it can be very hard to properly stop and restrain a DC even if you do realise their kants are off.

 

[Tigole]

-support
they're not gonna nerf a vip job lmao

 

[Charles "Ze" Whitmee]

I just think the negative should be more, esspecially with 2 DCs it can be very hard to properly stop and restrain a DC even if you do realise their kants are off.

That I can agree with, had to deal with DCs running around on Potent killing and disguise swapping like this.
It's all well and good when DCs RP and engage with the role, but when they run round the site treating it like a Team Deathmatch gamemode it's not fun.

 

["Aki"]

this makes like no sense at all

Code-1 gets called everyone is ID-Checked changing their disguise isn't saving anyone, It just doesn't make sense to deny this with the already debuff you get from 914, aka the fact that you can get kant checked at any moment and you're dead.

That I can agree with, had to deal with DCs running around on Potent killing and disguise swapping like this.
It's all well and good when DCs RP and engage with the role, but when they run round the site treating it like a Team Deathmatch gamemode it's not fun.

If people were just... legit just walking round as Deep covers shooting people for no reason you can report that to me or any other DELCOM,

It's something that we tell people to not do and it's very punishable.

 

[Charles "Ze" Whitmee]

If people were just... legit just walking round as Deep covers shooting people for no reason you can report that to me or any other DELCOM,

It's something that we tell people to not do and it's very punishable.

(I've watched CI COs do this)

 

[Niox]

(I've watched CI COs do this)

report it to me

 

[Ronin]

GOC used to have internal policy against this but we changed it because the anomalous affects were reversible.

I don't see a reason this would be failRP or unfair.