Denied Make MC&D appear on the Tab Menu as MC&D

[Emilia Foddg]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:​

Make MC&D appear on the tab menu as MC&D and not as Civilians.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:​

There was a recent suggestion asking for the same thing for Civilian jobs in general - The difference here being that this suggestion concerns MC&D, which while players flag onto it with their character on the Civilian vWar faction, MC&D itself is considered a separate faction for the purposes of RP.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):​

• + Easier to tell when MC&D are around and would encourage engaging in RP with them, as IIRC they currently show as Civilians.
  
  
• + Simple vJobEditor change that can likely be made by any Sr. Admin+?

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:​

• - I may be stupid and this is already the case, haven't paid attention to it for a while
  
  
• - Metagame potential

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:​

Honestly, I can understand why this change wouldn't be made as tab menu info is generally not meant to be used in RP, but maybe there are some good cases where this would be useful. Do I are have dumb or does this idea have good? Please clarify.

 

[Vxnt]

-Support
the other suggestion was JUST denied. If you wanna find if there is MC&D on surface, have SOP scout or use o-comms.

Metagame potential is evil and you wouldn't have any reason to know it IC, so you shouldn't know it OOC!

If I could amnesticate people irl so they played their role better you KNOW I would. But I cant. This is as close as we get.

 

[Advil Smith]

Using the f4 menu you can check if someone using that job slot can be used currently anyways it being hidden doesn’t change much so uh +support I guess?

 

[Glazzing]

+support

 

[Emilia Foddg]

the other suggestion was JUST denied.

Metagame potential is evil

My thinking here is that problem was more about metagaming various civvie jobs such as gun dealers being on and potentially supplying CI or such, as well as metagaming checking for trespassing parawatch

MC&D is a different and even though they're a neutral faction that can cause problems for primarily F, their presence overall has far more RP implications.

EDIT: Also if you really badly wanted to metagame against MC&D anyway, you can just look at the Tab menu with a more critical eye as they aren't exactly hidden, they just show as civilians. For preventing metagaming, some of the faction obfuscation for certain jobs is about as useful as a chocolate teapot.

you wouldn't have any reason to know it IC, so you shouldn't know it OOC!

I get the idea behind this - However comparing it with Parawatch again, MC&D as an anomalous black market would make more sense to make themselves more known to their groups of interest in the area; Potential buyers and sellers. I'm not sure how to fully rationalise it, but there's better justification than people just knowing what civvie job is what.

If you wanna find if there is MC&D on surface, have SOP scout or use o-comms.

/oc Hello are there any MC&D around? I'd like to talk to you about the 008 zombie virus and our plans to neutralise it using the alpha warhead. Please reply immediately if you are there

If I could amnesticate people irl so they played their role better you KNOW I would. But I cant. This is as close as we get.

You can absolutely amnesticate people irl, just follow these instructions.

 

[Trickl]

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Suggestion Denied​

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Hi @Emilia Foddg ,

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.

The Content Team has chosen to deny your suggestion due to the following reason(s):

MC&D are hidden among the civilian population on the server, which is why they fall under the civilian faction. Additionally this change is unnecessary and would cause a larger amount of work with little benefit.


Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as denied.​