Content Suggestion Disallow Factions from Using Another Faction's Stashes

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
To mechanically add a prevention from using another faction's stashes in their base. For example:
- CI and GOC will not be able to use stashes in Foundation
Essentially just make it so that if the stash is not in your own base (or surface, as that one can be open to all) you cannot use it on your faction.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
The only mildly similar suggestion was the Fundamental Roleplay Rework, but that was character based inventories, not faction limiting stashes.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- Raids would not be able to restock mid-raid on chemicals, weapons, etc. They would have to bring in the gear that will be used, which is finite.
- It makes more sense in a roleplay sense. An infinite stockpile of weapons, chemicals, etc would not be available to an Assessment Team grabbing a box in the middle of Foundation.
- Inventories cannot be vastly changed in the middle of raids, such as storing weapons, chemicals to make large amounts of space for even more storing. This essentially would axe a lot of hoarding that can occur.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
People may not be able to store chemicals immediately if trading in another faction's base.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
It further encourages preparation for raids and allows it to have a finite amount of strong resources brought in, instead of potentially limitless extensions from chemical and weapon usage, as well as no-consequences to dying (such as sampling raids in which the user's inventory can be filled but they stash chemicals in between SCPs).
 
I don't see the trading as much of an issue if an issue at all.
You got to be pretty close to someone to actually trade them stuff, so they would most likely be on the same faction to complete the trade. If not and its chemicals or something, then they can still just drop them and you can put them in your inventory.
If your inventory is full then that's your issue not theirs.

As for raids, bring your own shit, risking your life or not it doesn't make sense you can just run up to a stache you HAVEN'T USED AS A MEMBER OF CI OR GOC and grab out and use YOUR OWN CHEMICALS/WEAPONS/ETC.
 
Imo this is not an issue, it would make trading and other stuff harder. If you are tryina restock middle of a raid you are risking your life unless the stash is in a hidden place which is almost never the case
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Not to answer for the person themselves, but there are many situations and places in raids where a person could restock - and even more during Deep Cover raids where the majority of the boxes could be used.
 
"So you're not a DC? Prove it by retrieving something from your stash" Points at nearby stash with gun out
...Yes, this specific interaction is explicitly against the rules, but the existence of mods and the ticket system won't prevent all instances from occurring.

I'm not confident that this is particularly much of a problem, but I can see it being enough of a balance concern that it should be addressed somehow. Maybe instead of outright disallowing them, a different faction could either complete a CL5/6 hack to enable temporary access for like half a minute or so? Or in the case of diplomatic interactions like GOC visiting F, they could be granted this access via some system. Like, if this needs to be engineered in some way, I think it'd be better for it to be done in a way that preserves some RP/circumstantial tactical gameplay, rather than just outright prevented.
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I dont see any issue with stashes honestly. They wont make any difference during raids but will rather limit some GOC RP.
 
To address the part of "it's hardly used in the way mentioned", it is used quite frequently for sampling raids, especially at lower pop. Things where you have quite a while to change inventories.
"Foundation buff" I hope you're ragebaiting, because if DCs actually rely on it that much and treat it as an OOC thing, then you shouldn't be putting half the chems in there.
GOC RP won't really suffer from this? Unless it's a US thing.
""So you're not a DC? Prove it by retrieving something from your stash" Points at nearby stash with gun out" This is just a flat-out rulebreak. Stashes can't be forced for things because some people don't even have things in their stash, it's like soft metagaming to see what people have inventoried.
 
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Overall suggetion / idea is good but the problem is how CI and UNGOC will know which staches are foundation and which theirs?
I know its funny to think but i feel like staches should be modeled after their factions that they are placed in so if this ever gets then people will know which staches are on their team.


For example: CI staches will be colored more green-ish and UNGOC ones blue-ish, foundation ones will stay full white / base color.

And one more thing:
To address the part of "it's hardly used in the way mentioned", it is used quite frequently for sampling raids, especially at lower pop. Things where you have quite a while to change inventories.
"Foundation buff" I hope you're ragebaiting, because if DCs actually rely on it that much and treat it as an OOC thing, then you shouldn't be putting half the chems in there.
GOC RP won't really suffer from this? Unless it's a US thing.
""So you're not a DC? Prove it by retrieving something from your stash" Points at nearby stash with gun out" This is just a flat-out rulebreak. Stashes can't be forced for things because some people don't even have things in their stash, it's like soft metagaming to see what people have inventoried.
Those people who are defending the "RP" and such are not roleplayers but are just grinders to gain / win levels and power (they are like me fr fr fr), and since you are a staff with high good power, then i give you free pass to abuse your banning powers on them. The last part was the joke.
 
Overall suggetion / idea is good but the problem is how CI and UNGOC will know which staches are foundation and which theirs?
It's... in their base? Foundation ones in Site, CI ones in CI Base and GOC ones in GOC base? Wouldn't really need a colour. Just a flag like dispensers.
 
To address the part of "it's hardly used in the way mentioned", it is used quite frequently for sampling raids, especially at lower pop. Things where you have quite a while to change inventories.
"Foundation buff" I hope you're ragebaiting, because if DCs actually rely on it that much and treat it as an OOC thing, then you shouldn't be putting half the chems in there.
GOC RP won't really suffer from this? Unless it's a US thing.
""So you're not a DC? Prove it by retrieving something from your stash" Points at nearby stash with gun out" This is just a flat-out rulebreak. Stashes can't be forced for things because some people don't even have things in their stash, it's like soft metagaming to see what people have inventoried.
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Foundation buffs because they have multiple stashes in different locations, giving them an upper hand in combat if this was accepted.

DC may forget something in their stash, and accepting this would be a nerf on DC in general.

So, if you think it's not OOC, then let's just have one stash in each faction, then it's not ooc device because no faction will have more than one console, thus this suggestion would make sense and its not a reality bending device.
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We keep all the stashes and say that GOC and CI stole one of the consoles to siphon the foundation resource, like they do with the foundation's power, which would make no sense for this suggestion to be a thing, since the consoles are reality benders, as you can place your chems in the ethic area and grab them at the garage.
 
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Foundation buffs because they have multiple stashes in different locations, giving them an upper hand in combat if this was accepted.

DC may forget something in their stash, and accepting this would be a nerf on DC in general.

So, if you think it's not OOC, then let's just have one stash in each faction, then it's not ooc device because no faction will have more than one console, thus this suggestion would make sense and its not a reality bending device.
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We keep all the stashes and say that GOC and CI stole one of the consoles to siphon the foundation resource, like they do with the foundation's power, which would make no sense for this suggestion to be a thing, since the consoles are reality benders, as you can place your chems in the ethic area and grab them at the garage.
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