Partially Accepted Class A Change

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Proximo1021

Proximo1021

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Change class A from a 15-minute class to 30 minutes

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Don't think so

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
Makes Class A somewhat useful.
Class A will be used and still somewhat desired

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- Random Complaint # 1 and #2. Idrk a negative of this? Roleplay that includes anything related to amnestics will always last more than 15 minutes 90% of the time. It doesn't destruct

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Class A is actually so useless. The only reason I use it is that I have a bunch. Generally its inconvient, as most situations that would need a Class A supplement is longer than 30 minutes
 
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Proximo1021 said:
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- Random Complaint # 1 and #2. Idrk a negative of this? Roleplay that includes anything related to amnestics will always last more than 15 minutes 90% of the time. It doesn't destruct
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Will it though?

The majority of amnestic usage I see (that isn't Class-E or higher) is for subtle things such as a person accidentally talking about O5, A-1/O-1, 008 specifics, etc in front of someone and needing to stop that. Even when people stop raids that are in secret areas they normally don't last more than 15 minutes in those areas.

I cannot think of a single situation that would regularly last more than 15 minutes but less than 30 (as if it lasts more than 30, you'll need a higher level anyways).

I am not against this, I merely don't see many scenarios where you need to use this.
 
YandereMuffin said:
Will it though?


The majority of amnestic usage I see (that isn't Class-E or higher) is for subtle things such as a person accidentally talking about O5, A-1/O-1, 008 specifics, etc in front of someone and needing to stop that. Even when people stop raids that are in secret areas they normally don't last more than 15 minutes in those areas.

I cannot think of a single situation that would regularly last more than 15 minutes but less than 30 (as if it lasts more than 30, you'll need a higher level anyways).

I am not against this, I merely don't see many scenarios where you need to use this.
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[Yanderemuffin]
Interrogations and long conflicts that last about 25 minutes happen all the time.

[Evan and Zen]

You want to know what the alternative is... people use Class B just like they did Class A, and they use it exclusively because Class A is usually useless. 30 minutes is not enough time to forget and completely ruin RP. In my opinion, if they want to, they should just make an alternative amnestic that rolls back 5-10 minutes, while making Class A 30. Generally, Class A was originally used when doing interrogations (Aka on CI or people), or when people needed to forget something, which is usually after a conflict or some sort of roleplay scenario that leads to needing Class A. Rolling back 15 minutes usually isn't enough, so people will just use class B and do the entire hour, which would definitely result in RP ruined.
 
Proximo1021 said:
[Yanderemuffin]
Interrogations and long conflicts that last about 25 minutes happen all the time.

[Evan and Zen]

You want to know what the alternative is... people use Class B just like they did Class A, and they use it exclusively because Class A is usually useless. 30 minutes is not enough time to forget and completely ruin RP. In my opinion, if they want to, they should just make an alternative amnestic that rolls back 5-10 minutes, while making Class A 30. Generally, Class A was originally used when doing interrogations (Aka on CI or people), or when people needed to forget something, which is usually after a conflict or some sort of roleplay scenario that leads to needing Class A. Rolling back 15 minutes usually isn't enough, so people will just use class B and do the entire hour, which would definitely result in RP ruined.
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First off, Class-B is still more expensive than Class-A which is the point of the change. Also, 30 minutes is too long. 15 minutes works for most situations. I can list a lot of situations that is less than 15 minutes.

- Combatives on Floor 3 after seeing CL5 areas
- People accidentally saying an info breach
- People trespassing into areas they’re not supposed to be in.
- Most interrogations
- I can list even more but I’m too lazy.
 
Suggestion Partially Approved​


Hi @Proximo1021 ,

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.
The Content Team has chosen to partially accept your suggestion for the following reasons.

This has technically already been implemented with the new low/high dose system that was released a few days ago.

Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as partially accepted.​
 
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